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The Rocketeer (1991)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, July of that year. I must say the report on movieweb.com then does seem quite reasonable:

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Disney's 1991 classic The Rocketeer is coming back to the big screen with a big twist. Walt Disney Pictures has put what is described as a "sequel-reboot" to the original movie in development, which will be called The Rocketeers and will be set six years after the events of the original, taking place at the outset of the Cold War. The title character will not be Cliff Secord from the original, with a new character taking over.

The original movie, based on the 1980s indie comic by Dave Stevens, followed Cliff Secord, played by Billy Campbell, a stunt pilot who discovers a rocket pack suit, as he goes on adventures that puts him in the crosshairs of monsters, Nazis and even industrialist Howard Hughes. The Hollywood Reporter reveals that Cliff Secord has disappeared while fighting the Nazis, which paves the way for a young African-American female pilot, who takes up the mantle of Rocketeer. She steps up to stop an ambitious and corrupt rocket scientist from stealing jet-pack technology in what could prove to be a turning point in the Cold War. Max Winkler and Matt Spicer have signed on to write the script.

The original movie only made $46.7 million at the box office, with the studio considering its performance disappointing, but the fan base kept growing to massive proportions over the years. The studio held a 20th Anniversary screening at the El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood back in 2011, with fans lining up for blocks for a chance to see this movie on the big screen again. The site reports that Disney started thinking of ideas to reboot this property around the same time as the anniversary screening, although they were trying to find ways to differentiate the property from Marvel's Iron Man.

Ironically, this reboot-sequel may actually have more in common with Iron Man than they think. Earlier this month, Marvel Comics announced that, at the end of their Civil War II comic book series, Tony Stark will step aside as Iron Man, paving the way for a 15-year-old African-American teenager named Riri Williams to take over as this iconic hero. It's possible that this comic book story line may have inspired Disney to go in a similar direction with their Rocketeers reboot-sequel, but we don't know for sure.


Making the main new character both African-American and female doesn't really fit too well with how things were 70 years ago, but that's movies for you...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Making the main new character both African-American and female...

Don't forget "young". (A teenager taking over for Tony Stark as well . . . Adults are unfashionable anymore.) Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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" . . . that's movies for you.." is exactly right. Rolling Eyes

Disney somehow thought The Rocketeer would be confused with Iron Man, so they made the new version of the character young and African-American. But part of Custer's excerpt says this:


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Ironically, this reboot-sequel may actually have more in common with Iron Man than they think. Earlier this month, Marvel Comics announced that, at the end of their Civil War II comic book series, Tony Stark will step aside as Iron Man, paving the way for a 15-year-old African-American teenager named Riri Williams to take over as this iconic hero. It's possible that this comic book story line may have inspired Disney to go in a similar direction with their Rocketeers reboot-sequel, but we don't know for sure.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think I mentioned that.

But fortunately we'll be able to tell Iron Man apart from the Rocketeer because one will be played by a young female African-American, while the other will be played by a young male African-American. In either case it will probably spare us from being bombarded by scenes of heavy petting.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marvel does seem to like their writers to bring in new younger people to take over as their "big name" heroes... which they imagine makes an "ideal jumping on point" for new younger readers. The writers are in favour, as it means they can make their mark on the comics and get creative, instead of just pitting Peter or Bruce or Tony against a different villain. And then a year or so down the line they can announce "the return of the Bruce Banner Hulk" or whatever. And of course as most of the main heroes have been white, middle-aged males, there's always the temptation to bring in more "diversity." But that's comics for you... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a kid many of the comic books, Saturday matinees, and TV shows had adult heroes with juvenile sidekicks (e.g., Batman and Robin). As I recall, when we played at being these characters, the kids who were quick on their feet claimed the adult character ("Dibs on Batman!"). The consolation prize was always the juvenile sidekick. I don't recall one of us ever yelling out "Dibs on Robin!" as first choice. I guess times have changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The consolation prize was always the juvenile sidekick. I don't recall one of us ever yelling out "Dibs on Robin!" as first choice. I guess times have changed.

Now it's the superheroes are saying, "Dibbs on being a juvenile, instead of an old fart!" Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

orzel-w wrote:
When I was a kid many of the comic books, Saturday matinees, and TV shows had adult heroes with juvenile sidekicks (e.g., Batman and Robin). As I recall, when we played at being these characters, the kids who were quick on their feet claimed the adult character ("Dibs on Batman!"). The consolation prize was always the juvenile sidekick. I don't recall one of us ever yelling out "Dibs on Robin!" as first choice. I guess times have changed.

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Though I may have pirated the super-heroes, I never went near their boy companions. I couldn't stand boy companions. If the theory behind Robin the Boy Wonder, Roy the Superboy, the Sandman's Sandy, the Shield's Rusty, the Human Torch's Toro, the Green Arrow's Speedy was to give young readers a character with whom to identify, it failed dismally in my case. The super grownups were the ones I identified with. They were versions of me in the future. There was still time to prepare. But Robin the Boy Wonder was my own age. One need only look at him to see he could fight better, swing from a rope better, play ball better, eat better, and live better -- for while I lived in the East Bronx, Robin lived in a mansion, and while I was trying, somehow, to please my mother -- and getting it all wrong -- Robin was rescuing Batman and getting the gold medals. He didn't even have to live with his mother.

-- from The Great Comic Book Heroes by Jules Feiffer
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Roy the Superboy" seems a bit obscure... apparently he was the sidekick to a hero called The Wizard back in the forties. A sixties revival, probably brief, had to make him "the Mighty Boy" apparently, to avoid upsetting DC...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Looks like a blatant Superman knockoff, complete with a Lois Lane-type female reporter.

"Swami Rivers" -- Well, at least the writer had a sense of humor.
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