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[Bud Brewster]

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With all due respect, Eadie, Gord is right.

The photo of the young man waring a replica of the FP uniform is not one of the 12" action figures sold by Bob's Toy Factory. Notice the oversized weave of the fabric in the uniform worn by the action figure, cause by the fact that camera was close to the fabric, thereby showing the weave of the cloth.

The young man's uniform, however, has no visible weave because it's too small to see, since the photo of the man was taken from several feet away.

And, of course, there's the obvious fact that the face is real, not a plastic doll.

[orzel-w]

It's funny that this costume issue came up. When I was looking at the costume photos yesterday, the thought that popped into my head was, "Those boots he's wearing make him look like an action figure."
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[Krel]

I was going to buy one of the caps for the badge.

[Krel]

[Gord Green]

BUD WROTE;

Quote:

Gord, I’m still puzzled by your belief that any scene taken from that washed out, blurry old 16mm work print (with scratchy, monaural sound) could be “restored” and digitally added the beautiful print used for the current Blu-ray of Forbidden Planet!

With all due respect Sir that is EXACTLY what digital restoration ....or should I say CGI enhancement does. All the scenes I refered to have pristine reference available for the backgrounds and subject matter (actors). All are relatively brief. The shipboard and night exterior shots are also limited in color saturation and ALL can be cgi enhanced with cleaned up sound. We're talking about less then ten minutes in screen time.

I would never suggest that this would replace the present version, but could make an "alternate" version with all original material that was excised and sloppily edited from the start.

If Lucas could digitally keep changing his STAR WARS films this would be small by comparison. Unlike the STAR WARS films this would be restoring original elements of the story, not changing anything from what was originaly shot.

I would have to say, however, this would never really happen because there is no money to be made from it. Unlike STAR WARS there is little profit in this project.....but I still think it would be great!
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[Bud Brewster]

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My apologies. The cause of my confusion is your use of the words "digitally restored" and "CGI enhancement".

I thought you wanted to "fix up" (restore) those fuzzy scenes in the work print.

What you really mean is a CGI recreation of each scene, starting from scratch and rendering them as pure computer generated images, with no attempt made to "restore" the 16mm film images.

The deleted scenes would, as you implied, only be used as references for the complete recreation of each scene, imitating as closely as possible what was photographed for the movie.

Sort of like what an artist does when he has a model pose for a portrait.

And yes, all the other shots currently in the movie would serve as vital references for details, like the color and texture and lightning, since the deleted scenes are what our late friend Bulldogtrekker used to call "a hot mess".

Gord, I would love to see that done too! I'm sure they could make Forbidden Planet 3D as well! I love the way 3D has become so reliable and easy to watch. I don't know what the difference is between 3D and "real 3D" but I've yet to see one that was very impressive.

Maybe someday all this will become inexpensive enough to make it possible.
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[Maurice]

The amount of CGI work it would take to rez-up that deleted footage would be expensive and likely unconvincing. The issue with digital cleanup is how much visual information is there to work from, and these surviving elements are pretty mushy. I guess one could try something like CGI Leia in Rogue One, but she''s only on screen for a single shot and one word and she looks awful.
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[orzel-w]

[Maurice]

[Bud Brewster]

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Although the pants did tuck into the boots, they weren't as high as the boots in the picture above, so the loose pants legs gathered about four inches above the ankles.

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I didn't do a great job modifying the picture below, but the pants legs look a little more like the way they did in the movie.




As for the CGI recreation of the deleted scenes, Maurice made an interesting comment.

[Krel]

[Eadie]

Girlfriends can be So temperamental [particularly every 28 days] (I know since I am one):



Yet so colorful:



I wonder how you males [I include Robby] cope?

Even while filming The Invisible Boy (1957) Robby had other duties:



And he has a new dance partner — Timmy's mom:





For a quite a while lately Robby was desperate for job, ANY job:



He's even been sending out old Movie World post cards:



His last job was for TCM hawking film noir movies:



And selling computer mouse pads:





Here is my niece. Hailey, in costume as movie power girl:



He currently resides in The Robots, Drones And Droids Retirement, (Oh My!) Community in South Florida:




This is deliberately large, It's beautiful:



Here is a list of the Just Imagine Jeanie stories:


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Art Should Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable.

[Robert (Butch) Day]

Even Robby has ine of those days!



The crew class B uniform modified for The Twilight Zone episodes Death Ship and On Thursday We Leave For Home:



This was taken at night along the Amazon river by a special camera. It shows a tree glowing by Rhadophyll.



Rhadophyll is a coined term about plants that naturally use a mixture of chlorophyll, carotenoid and anthocyanin where the chlorophyll is dominated by the other chemicals so the plant naturally is red in color. It's very unusual for this glow. That's still being studied.:



This is what's happened on Altair IV due to the star's emission spectrum according to a study by Victoria Meadows of the Virtual Planet Laboratory (VPL) at Caltech.



Did you know that the early Earth was purple? info at https://www.livescience.com/1398-early-earth-purple-study-suggests.html
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[Bud Brewster]

[Maurice]