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Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:51 pm Post subject:

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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject:

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I just made the screenshot below from my Blue-ray, Eadie. It seems to be about the same amount of image as the one in your top picture.

What did you use to make the slightly smaller picture on the bottom?

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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Gord Green · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject:

In the Vol#4 no#1 issue of CINEFANTASTIQUE author Steve Rubin relates this bit of knowledge :

So, obviously what we have been viewing all these years is at best a "rough cut" of the movie. This explains the sloppy editing and jump cuts throughout. The cut of the movie was mainly done for time....The running time, especialy for a "B" picture aimed at kids had to run around 1 1/2 hours to maximize the number of showings each day in a theatre.
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Bud Brewster · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:07 am Post subject:

Maurice · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject:

Hopefully no one was drinking Radithor.
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Gord Green · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:23 pm Post subject:

Last night I re-watched the workprint of FORBIDDEN PLANET that the Barron's used to score the film and was struck by how well then excised scenes could be digitaly restored to a new copy of the film.

The on ship scenes could perfectly insert into the flow of dialogue to establish the friction between Adams and Farnum right from the start. It would also explain why "the ship can make it's own eclipses..." and why it was necessary. (A scene that completely confused me when I first saw it at age 10!)

The ride to the residence could be eliminated....(It gave no new or pertinent information anyway.) The back projection as well as the dialogue was un-necessary.

The discussions re: the unicorn, both at the residence and in the walking scene with Adams and Ostrow, could easily be enhanced and edited into the film. Both scenes had very good audio. Both added to the depth of the story.

All and all we're talking about less than ten minutes of dialogue and visuals that would greatly enhance the depth of the story.
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There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.

Maurice · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject:

Gord Green · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:16 pm Post subject:

A copy of the alternate scenes was included on the Videodisk edition (The record album size one!) I believe they were also available on the Blu-ray anniversary edition. At one time they could be found on YouTube....haven't seen them lately. It looks like Warner Bros. had them deleted because of copywrite issues.

As far as I know the Barron's copy was taken back by MGM and thus into the hands of WB, and there may still be video copies floating around of the entire print.

The only really divergent scenes were the ones I mentioned.

There were MANY other scenes shot, but would have been destroyed after the editors cut.
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There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.

Gord Green · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:00 am Post subject:

Do you want your own FORBIDDEN PLANET uniform?
A site called FAB GEAR has a complete one offered for sale. Tunic top, pants, belt and cap are all available.

http://www.fabgearusa.com/forbidden-planet-replica-uniform-tunic/

"This replica tunic from Forbidden Planet was worn by all United Planets crew members. The heavy grey cotton twill top has padded shoulders and a tufted chest give that heroic look. Heavy-duty snaps allow for ease of on-and-off. Shoulder markings for both commander and lieutenant are included. Available in Medium, Large or X Large. Matching Pants available."

Even a Blaster is available!

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There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.

Maurice · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:15 am Post subject:

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Gord Green · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:02 am Post subject:

Maurice, I have the copy from the videodisk....around 25 minutes of film excised or replaced in the released print.

It contains the scenes I described (plus alternate versions without effects or music added.).

As far as I've been able to find the complete original "workprint" is a 16mm filmstrip and is either in the hands of Bebe Barron or Warner Brothers. While the whole thing would be interesting to view the scenes I mentioned above are the ones I think could be integrated into a "Director's Cut" type edition.
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There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.

Gord Green · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:21 am Post subject:

Eadie.....

I'm confused.....You really think that THIS.....

Is the same as THIS?

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There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.