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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Doesn't anyone else recognize the jumpsuits that the men are wearing?

Identification eludes me.
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A big hint. It was a movie with Ray 'Crash' Corrigan.

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Well, by gum, you're right, David! The uniforms were used two years earlier on a certain space mission that brought back a hitch hiker. Very Happy






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On the previous incarnation of All Sci-Fi I posted some ideas for several sequels to Beyond the Time Barrier that had a lot in common with both Buck Rogers and the comic book character, Adam Strange.



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The Adam Strange comics were about an archeologist working in Peru who is suddenly teleported by a "Zeta-Beam" to the planet Rann, several light years from Earth. On Rann he meets a gorgeous gal named Alanna and her father, Sardath, who explains that the Zeta-Beam was transmitted from Rann to Earth, and its effect on Adam will only allow him to stay on Rann until it wears off, after which he'll be transported back to Earth.

While he's on Rann, Adam Strange learns that the planet is being threatened by aliens, and he joins their fight against them. During this time, he falls in love with the lovely Alanna, and he learns to use their advanced technology — such as their snazzy weapons and jet packs.

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But eventually he is snatched back to Earth when the Zeta-Beam wears off, and Adam Strange becomes desperate to return to Rann. Fortunately, he knows that the Zeta-Beam is periodically transmitted to Earth, and Strange is able to calculate the exact time and place on Earth where the beam will arrive, thus allowing him to journey back and forth between Earth and Rann.

How does all this related to Beyond the Time Barrier?

Actually, there are quite a few similarities between Beyond the Time Barrier and the Adam Strange series. In both stories a man is transported instantaneously to an advanced civilization, meets a wise leader and his beautiful daughter, falls in love with a girl who wears sexy "futuristic" outfits, learns of a dire threat to their society, and then . . . is suddenly compelled to return home.






Robert Clarke even gets to a wear cool-looking spaceman outfit and a helmet.





A sequel to Beyond the Time Barrier would be easy to concoct, and the movie sets it up perfectly. The film ends with Robert Clarke successfully convincing the authorities that he has in fact returned from the future, and that the tragic events which lead to the plague which threatens mankind can be avoided.

It also establishes that Clarke's aircraft, the X-80, is capable of traveling through time under the right conditions, and that these conditions can be calculated and repeated, even to the point of selecting which direction through time he travels! (They explain how this is done in the movie, and it damn near makes sense. Very Happy )








So, after changing the history of the future society and preventing the plague, Clarke could actually return to the future and visit the new, healthy, and technologically advanced civilization he saved from extinction.

One nice benefit to rebooting the future is that he prevents the events that lead up the death of Darlene Tompkins' character.






When he arrives in the "new future" — Hallelujah, she's alive! Furthermore, she and her people would no longer be sterile deaf mutes, doomed to extinction. The plague never happened. That's the good news.

Ah, but the bad news is that in this timeline Darlene never met and fell in love with Clarke. So, he would have to win her love all over again — which he would, I promise, because this is (A) a movie, and (B) my story, and I'm a sucker for romance. Very Happy

So, here's how the sequels (note the plural) will play out in this epic series of science fiction adventures.

Clarke makes several journeys back and forth between the present and the future, like Adam Strange and his periodic visits to Rann. And why, you may ask, would Clarke go back and forth? Ah, that's the fun part! Cool

Having already saved mankind with the invaluable knowledge he brought back from the first trip, Clarke goes into the future a second time so he can return with advanced technology and more valuable info about future events that need to be altered or avoided. By doing this, he gives the folks back home a brand new advantage to make the future even better in all kinds of ways.

Then he hops back into his good old time-traveling X-80 a third time (or better yet, a more advanced aircraft designed specifically for the task) and goes "back to the future" to see how the third timeline he created has turned out.

If things are working out well for mankind — mission accomplished! He pats himself on the back, loads up on even newer technological advances based on a future which had a head start on the previous one, thanks to the fact that prior to his return he "upgraded" the present with his technological gives from the future!

That means the technology from the future be brings back the second will be even better than what he brought back the first.

So, Clark kisses Darlene good-bye (assuming he's successfully seduced the little darlin' yet again!) and heads back to 1960 to start round four of this crazy time-looping strategy for mankind's advancement.

Ever time he goes into the future to see what effect his gifts of knowledge in the present have caused in the future, he'll either see an even more advanced civilization — or he'll discover something more like what happened in the first movie, another disaster that needs fixin'.

Dramatically speaking, this is a gold mine, because every time he arrives in the "new improved future" Darlene won't know him from Adam (the guy in the Bible, not the guy in the comic book), and he'll have to win her tender young heart all over again if it wants to continue the romance.






However, Robert has an ace in the hole, because his true love is telepathic (a characteristic we just have to let her hang on to in every new times line), and we can indicate that it's even stronger in the "improved" future without that nasty plague around anymore. So, Robert can tell her to read his mind and download his memories of their past relationship, thus causing a form of telepathic "speed dating" that puts these two young lovers in the fast lane on the road to romance!

And he can do this every time he shows up in the future! Wink

It makes for one helluva "long distance relationship", and I'd love to write the script for this series of imaginary movies.

The only problem I see with this idea is that at the end of Beyond the Time Barrier poor Robert looks like THIS, for reasons that aren't made clear in the movie.






But hey, I'm a science fiction writer, which means I have God-like powers in my own fictional universe. So, figuring out how to make Robert young again and preventing this unpleasant fate from happening ever time he makes one of his temporal jaunts is a big part of the fun in doing this kind of thing!

For example, suppose he aged rapidly because of his exposure to the radiation that caused the plague in the future. The scientist in 1960 can't restore his youth and health. But a group of them want to journey to the future the way Robert did and find out if present-day efforts to avert the plague were successful. They decide to take Robert along because they hope that medical advances in the "new" future might be able to help the guy who saved mankind.

Seems like the least they could do under the circumstances, eh?

Thankfully the plan works and Robert gets a new lease on life from the advanced medical facilities in the future he helped create with his warning about the plague. In doing so the team from the present realizes that taking back advanced medical knowledge will be a boon to mankind.

And thus begins the 'round robin series of time traveling trips which causes mankind to leap forward technologically each time knowledge from a more and more advanced future is given to the folks in 1960!

And yet all this progress is made without mankind actually having to move forward in time past the two points in the timeline in which Beyond the Time Barrier takes place!

Wild idea, eh?

I hope we'll have a good turn out for this movie tonight at All Sci-Fi's Friday Live Chat, because I've been psyching myself up for this all week long!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow . . .

It's been eighteen months since I posted my imaginative ideas for a series of sequels to this enjoyable movie . . . and yet not a single member of All Sci-Fi has bothered to reply to my post. Sad

Folks, that's very disappointing.

I was certain that the intelligent and imaginative members of this board would love the concept and suggest a few great variations — like the idea that the time traveling team might arrive in the future during one of their repeated visits and discovered that the Earth has been devastated by some sort of man-made calamity! Shocked

The team would immediately realize that the last series of technological advances which were taken back from the future had been misused by mankind, and something horrible occurred.

The time traveling team would realize that mankind's only hope would be for them to sift through the wreckage of this global holocausts until they discover the reasons for it, and then take this knowledge back to the present (1960) so that it would not be become our future! Shocked

The true beauty of this concept is that if the team discovers the cause of the holocaust and returns to 1960 with the knowledge of how to prevent it — along with the identity of the people who caused it (like the idiotic world leaders responsible for a nuclear war between North Korea and America) — then the horrible future the time traveling team saw in the future would never happen, and mankind would be right back on track with their time-looping progress, which gets better and better with each cycle! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The true beauty of this concept is that if the team discovers the cause of the holocaust and returns to 1960 with the knowledge of how to prevent it — along with the identity of the people who caused it (like the idiotic world leaders responsible for a nuclear war between North Korea and America) — then the horrible future the time traveling team saw in the future would never happen, and mankind would be right back on track with their time-looping progress, which gets better and better with each cycle!

But then it never would have happened so they could not find the solution in the future to bring back with them.

This is why....if time travel both ways is possible...a NEW timeline in an alternate universe would be created and the devestation in the original universe would proceed as before!
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But then it never would have happened so they could not find the solution in the future to bring back with them.

This is why....if time travel both ways is possible...a NEW timeline in an alternate universe would be created and the devastation in the original universe would proceed as before!

First of all, neither the movie nor my sequel involves an "alternate universe" and multiple timelines. Just one timeline that can be changed by a time traveler if he alters events at some point, causing new "effects" brought about by new "causes".

Example: Marty McFly prevents his mother from marrying his father. Result: Marty won't be born. Solution: Make sure the "cause" of Marty does occur.

Concerning what you said above, you're right that if the folks in the past do something to prevent the plaque from happening, naturally they wouldn't be able to go into the future find out how to prevent it.

But of course, if they've already done something to prevent it . . . they won't need to learn how to prevent it! Very Happy

I just meant that if the folks in the past did not know how to prevent it, a trip into the future to learn about the plague would be necessary. Then they could take the knowledge back in time and change the events which caused the plague.

Sorry I didn't make that clear.

In Beyond the Time Barrier, Clark went into the future, found out that a plague had occurred which devastated humanity, and then took back information about the future which would inevitably change the timeline in some manner.

His hope was to prevent the plague. We don't know for sure if he succeed, but in my sequel, he does. Cool

So, after warning the folks in the 1960s about the plague — thus allowing mankind to avoid it — Clark then makes another trip back to that same time period to see if he was successful in preventing the plaque.

As I said, he was. The plague did not occur. But in this new timeline, those folks have never met him, because he did not show up there as he did in the movie. For the folks in the future, this is his first visit.

However, he befriends the people there (again), and he explains exactly what he did to save them from the plague which would otherwise have occurred. He also convinces them to share advanced technology that he can take back to 1960.

Then Clark journeys back to 1960 (again) with his gift of advanced knowledge for the folks back home. Using the advancements he takes back, our scientists get a big jump start, and our technology leaps forward.

Over the next hundred years between 1960 and the future when Clark makes his first-and-second visits, mankind continues to makes tremendous strides, thanks to the technology we gained from the future and began using in 1960!

Therefore, when Clark sets out on his third trip (say, in 1961), he arrives at yet another NEW FUTURE that is even more advanced than it was during his first or second visit, because they're technology is now the result of the new progress made by mankind from 1960 until the time Clark arrives there (again), one hundred years later.

Clark could actually do this over and over again.

And if each successive "future" is the end result a hundred-year-long period of technological advancement which started out with significantly more advanced technology than mankind had in the previous "present" (1960), then the end result each time Clark shows up one hundred years later will be a more advanced "future" than the previous one.

Gord, think of it as being like what happens if you take the profits from your business and reinvest them in your company. The more money you make, the more money you have to expand the company and increase its productivity. Thus the profits grow exponentially as the company grows larger.

Every time Clark goes into the future and brings back more advanced knowledge to give to the folks when he returns in (for example) 1960, 1961, 1962, etc., he improves the "present", and therefore causes even more advances in the "future", one hundred years later.

Here's another example that might help. Suppose a farmer only had enough seeds to plant one acre of land. But if he had a time machine, he could first plant the one acre and then go ahead to the fall, where he could harvest the crop from his one acre and bring back enough seeds to plant a second acre of crops!

If he did the same thing again after planting the two acres, he could come back with enough seeds for four acres, then eight, and so forth . . . all of which would occur during the same planting period, simply by returning from the harvest in the fall with a new load of seeds!

Get the idea?

Clark's time traveling character would be accelerating technological advancements each time he brought back valuable knowledge from the future and allowed mankind have it so we could develop it even further. And the development of the technology would progress from the moment he returned to 1960 until the moment he arrived at the NEW FUTURE and collected another "crop" of technology — which would be from a civilization even more advanced than it was previously!

Our time traveler would be collecting the seeds of knowledge in the future and then planting those seeds in the past — after which he could go forward in time again and collect even more advanced knowledge so he could travel back to the 1960s and "plant a new crop".

Concerning what all this would be like for Clark himself, bear in mind that he is the only one in the future who has any knowledge of his previous visits. He has to repeatedly introduce himself to the folks in the future each time he arrives, because he "resets" the timeline every time he travels back to 1960 and causes the chain of events to start over from that moment.

As I said, this is just like what happens in Back to the Future — but with a new twist! Very Happy

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Here's both the trailer and the full version of this movie, one of my favorite sci-fi movies from that era. Cool
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I've always looked on this one as an extended Twilight Zone episode — an Air Force test pilot (Robert Clarke, The Hideous Sun Demon) is flying his bird at a new altitude of 100 miles and breaks through the time barrier into year 2024.

Landing back at his base, he finds it to be derelict and empty of people. Close by, he notices what appears to be a futuristic city, but on his way there, he's zapped by a monitoring defense system. He finds himself captured by the last remnants of mankind, most of whom are deaf mute due to mutation. The ruler is called the Supreme (Vladimir Sokoloff), whose daughter (Darlene Tompkins, playing a mute) is swiftly enamored of the new man. Yet, the new arrival is still thrown into the dungeons with the rest of the more mutated prisoners.

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Eventually, it's revealed that some kind of cosmic plague wiped out most of humanity around 1971. The man from 1960 is then placed with a trio of other displaced travelers — two from 1994 and a female Russian pilot from 1973.

His goal is to, as expected, go back to his own time and prevent the plague. His main obstacle is probably the captain and chief of security (Red Morgan), who is suspicious of the visitors.

Besides the time travel angle, this offers a rather expressionist design for the futuristic city, dominated by triangles (made possible due to director Edgar Ulmer's filming at an exhibit of futuristic art-and-design at the 1959 Texas State Fair). Ulmer also made use of the abandoned MCAS Eagle Mountain Lake (northwest of Dallas/Ft. Worth) as a stand-in for the future abandoned Air Force base.

This has an action-packed and violent finale when the brutish mutants are freed. There's a final twist at the end that gives this a Zone-like, downbeat quality.

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Beyond the Trivia: Ulmer's wife Shirley acted as a script editor while their daughter Arianne Arden co-starred as the Russian pilot.


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IMDB has 10 trivia items for this movie. Here’s a few of the ones I found the most interesting, in the blue text. Very Happy
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~ With cooperation from the US Air Force and Texas Air National Guard, producer Robert Clarke filmed at Fort Worth's Carswell Air Force Base and the abandoned Marine Corps Air Station at Eagle Mountain Lake. The badly deteriorated buildings were used to show that the air base from which he took off was in ruins.

Note from me: The simple act of using one active base and one inactive weed-grown base as the same base separated by 64 years worked like a charm. Cool

~ The was shot at the same time as Edgar G. Ulmer's The Amazing Transparent Man (1960). The combined shooting time for the double feature was only two weeks. This film was also meant to cash in the popularity of George Pal's The Time Machine (1960).

Note from me: The Amazing Transparent Man is actually a pretty good movie, so I'm mighty impressed that these two films were completed so quickly! However, that makes this next trivia item all the more tragic. Sad

~ This film and another Robert Clarke / Edgar G. Ulmer production, The Amazing Transparent Man (1960), which was shot at the same time and in the same location, were originally to be distributed by a company called Pacific International.

Shortly after the films were completed, Pacific International went bankrupt, and producer Clarke lost all the money he had put into it. The films were put up for auction by the film lab that processed them in order to recoup its costs.

Both films were bought by American-International Pictures for a fraction of their cost, and upon release they made the company quite a bit of money. Except for his salary as an actor for two weeks' work, Clarke never saw a dime from the films.


Note from me: It saddens me to think that a film which shows this much intelligence and imagination (on such a modest budget) was not allowed to earn back the investment its producers made. Mr. Clark certainly deserved a much better fate than the one he got.

~ Screenwriter Arthur C. Pierce appears briefly as one of the mutants escaping from the jail cell in the underground citadel.

Note from me: Mr. Pierce has several sci-fi screenplays to his credit, including The Cosmic Man. As for his brief appearance on screen in this movie, I'm pretty sure Mr. Pierce volunteered for that uncredited role when he heard that the mutants were going to tackle the girls in miniskirts and then wrestle around on the floor! Wink

~ Vladimir Sokoloff, who played "The Supreme" in this movie, played "the old man" in "The Magnificent 7" which was also released in 1960. Although he played a Mexican in "The Magnificent 7," he was actually from Russia and his Russian accent can be heard in "Beyond The Time Barrier."

Note from me: Mr. Sokoloff's appearance in The Magnificent Seven is a key moment in the story. He inspires the peon's to stand up to the banditos, a crucial plot element.

This next item is of from the Wikipedia article.

~ Clarke chose Darlene Tompkins over several contenders for the mute and psychic Trirene, including Yvette Mimieux (who appeared in The Time Machine) and Leslie Parrish.

Note from me: The Time Machine was released a month after this movie, so it's possible that Yvette Mimieux might not have appeared in the George Pal movie if she'd been involved in this one. Then again, this movie was shot in just ten days, so she probably could have done both movies quite easily! Very Happy

Leslie Parrish was absolutely gorgeous in Lil' Abner (one year earlier), but I doubt that either she or Yvette could have played Trirene better than Darlene. (* sigh * Very Happy)

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Custer wrote:
In its way, this is a very interesting science fiction movie; it may have been shot over only ten days in Texas (or so Wikipedia says), with its producer as its star — but, in 1960, it must be very near the end of an era. 1960 was different from 1952, or 1956, or the other years when black & white science fiction films were so popular.

The print on this 4-in-1 dvd is great — I've not tried the other three yet.

Well, said Custer. I agree completely.

This is indeed the last low-budget-but-enjoyable science fiction movie of the 1950s era. The Time Machine kicked off the 1960s in the same year, and movies like Mysterious Island and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea were highlights of the 1960s, with 2001 raising the bar to a whole new level.

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Beyond the Time Barrier is being aired on TCM for the first time ever on January 1st at 6:30 AM EST. Very Happy

Hopefully the print will look better than all the DVDs I've bought over the last ten years during my diligent efforts to find a good copy of this highly enjoyable movie!

Would any of you folks with DVR capabilities like the share this movie in All Sci-Fi's Chatzy room?

The day and time is entirely up to you guys! I'm available anytime you choose. I'll even agree to multiple occasions, so that I can share the film with as many members as possible! Cool

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We recorded it and will watch this afternoon.
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