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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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OK, if you've seen some of my posts you know that I am something of a "tech geek" in that I'm fascinated by the technical aspect of classic sci-fi.....
So therefore ....Here's the WOW tech report!
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Excellent work, Agent Green! You succeeded in stealing the secret Martian plans for the machines they hope to use when they invade Earth!
My, my . . . won't those little green devils be surprised when they attack and we launch an identical fleet of war machines, all armed with the same weapons they possess?
This is going to a be glorious war! And the movie they make about it a few years will be pretty damn good, too! _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Maurice Mission Specialist
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder what Charlie Gemora et al imaged the Martian locomotive parts to be, since he basically only built it from the waist up. _________________ * * *
"The absence of limitations is the enemy of art."
― Orson Welles |
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Maurice, that's an interesting question.
There are some depictions of his version on only two legs.
The Spielburg version had 3 legs.
Most other versions of the 50's Martian had 6.
Grouped together to look like two.
The classic version had tentecles (Perhaps 6 )
What WAS intended is unknown. Perhaps it was never a matter of concern. |
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Maurice Mission Specialist
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Weirdly enough, Charlie Gemora's daughter is the ex-wife of a friend of mine. Their daughter's husband made the recent doco Charlie Gemora: Uncredited, which covers his career in some detail, albeit it kind of meanders and raises a lot of projects that it then fails to follow up on. :/ _________________ * * *
"The absence of limitations is the enemy of art."
― Orson Welles
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:48 am Post subject: |
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I think we would all LOVE to know more about the process behind the creation of the effects! Today, too many creators from the 50's and 60's have passed.
There are SO many details from WAR OF THE WORLDS and FORBIDDEN PLANET that can only be answered by the original creators.
Surface details and generalities abound, but in depth details are so lacking. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here, folks, is proof positive that America is the greatest country on Earth!
Where else would you find a "Family Night" like the one promoted below — three great science fiction movies, plus two color cartoons between the features.
And the snack bar provided a delicious dinner for the whole family so that mom didn't need to spend time in the kitchen!
Even though I didn't get to see many of the 1950s science fiction movies at indoor theaters because my small home town had no local movie house, my family frequently went to the Roosevelt Drive-in during the summer months, and it often ran science fiction films.
Man-oh-man, how I'd love to have seen a triple feature of sci-fi movies like this one!
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958) |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking Outside the "Plot"!
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Today it occurred to me that after the Martians were defeated in War of the Worlds, the nations of the Earth would unite to deal with the threat of a second attack from Mars.
After all, we never managed to find a single effective weapon to use against them, and the fact that we survived the attack was just blind luck!
Therefore it’s entirely possible that the Martians might find a way to inoculate themselves against the diseases that killed them here, or they might try to use some type of devastating super-weapon to wipe out ALL life on Earth.
They might even try a combination of the two.
The possibility of a second attack would be real enough to make it logical for mankind to plan and launch a counter attack on Mars. Yes, I’m suggesting the same basic plot as the Mars Attacks! cards.
What I love about this idea is the way mankind would pull together after being devastated by the Martians, and then we’d use the remnants of the Martian machines to develop advanced technology to build a well-armed fleet of ships to launch against Mars.
However, the most obvious weapon we could employ against the Martians — one which we already have — are the very germs which killed them when they came to Earth!
I love the irony. The Martians nearly wiped us out, but they're killed by Earth’s viral organisms. And so mankind’s revenge would be to take those same microorganisms right back to Mars and release them in the Martian atmosphere.
In fact, that might very well be the only weapon we’d need. We wouldn’t even need the well-armed fleet! Just send a few hundred unmanned probes carrying the disease germs, and have them make soft landings at various points around the planet. They could spray out the disease germs as they floated down on parachutes.
However, that’s such an easy strategy and such an obvious plot element, what the story really needs are some unexpected twists to make it interesting!
Perhaps the Martians launch there second attack with unmanned ships carrying highly destructive weapons before Earth (circa 1953, when the original film was made) is able to develop rockets that can reach Mars and deliver the viruses. The Martians would be smart to launch such an attack, because the Earth would need several years to recover from the world-wide devastation of the first attack.
Perhaps a better idea would be for the Martians to come in large mother ships which stay safely in orbit while they rain down bombs on the earth.
But I’m reluctant to suggest that kind of technology, because the Martian cylinders in War of the Worlds were true to the rather quaint idea that HG Wells proposed in the novel, namely that the Martians made hard landings in space vehicles which seemed to have no propulsion systems for slowing down during reentry!
And yet in the film, the Martians war machines levitated “magnetically” we’re told (which is not very scientific either). None of us accepts the idea that the Martians “shot” the cylinders from Mars and made highly accurate landings in groups of three (positioned in equilateral triangles).
The movie is a curious blend of hi-tech devices and outdated concepts, so I’m not sure how to proceed with my idea.
Anybody want help me out here? _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:49 pm Post subject: Starlog #2 — War of the Worlds |
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Enjoy this interesting article from issue #2 of Starlog. Click on each page here to see a large, easy-to-read version you can zoom in on. Click on the large version again, and then zoom in as close as you want![/color]
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Custer Space Sector Commander
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Mention of Marvel's "Killraven" series, set after the events of "War of the Worlds," reminds me that there is a tie-in to "Planet of the Apes"... in that there was a weekly British comic from Marvel UK reprinting "Planet of the Apes" material, but, as it came out every week, it ran out of material. So "Killraven" was renamed "Apeslayer," and ape heads were pasted onto the pages...
If you don't believe me, check this page out! |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Thank, Custer! That's interesting!
By the way, did you intend to make the tiny text at the bottom so small? I'm just curious. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Custer Space Sector Commander
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: |
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The final text was indeed meant to be small - I did initially try it two sizes smaller, but that seemed a bit extreme! |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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This article above is extremely well written, and I’m sure H.G. Welles himself would have approved of the way the author, Tom Rogers, summarized the classic novel.
Then it goes on to describe a little-known (and unauthorized) sequel written by a man namd Garrett P. Serviss entitled Invasion of Mars, published in an 1898 edition of the Evening Edition.
Amazingly enough, this sequel bares a strong resemblance to the climax of Mars Attacks!, in which the united nations of Earth build a fleet of heavily armed spaceships and head for Mars to pay them back for their attack on the Earth!
When the fleet attacks Mars they learn that in addition to the Martian creatures, a race of humanoids live on Mars.
The article above includes further details about this bizarre novel,and it goes on to provide interesting info about the Orson Welles’ radio adaptation in 1938. The rest of the article focuses on the 1953 film by George Pal, providing a wealth of well-research information.
I highly recommend this Starlog article to the members of All Sci-Fi! _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | Then it goes on to describe a little-known (and unauthorized) sequel written by a man namd Garrett P. Serviss entitled Invasion of Mars, published in an 1898 edition of the Evening Edition. |
I have that book, a publishing company reprinted it a few years back. They were suppose to publish other early 20th century SF novels, but I never saw another one from the publisher. I don't even remember the name of the publisher.
Thomas Edison is the hero of the novel, inventing a disintegrator, spaceships, ect., and leading the fleet into battle. It was an interesting read, if not really that good. The Martians bore no resemblance to Well's Martians. Thomas Edison was not happy about being used in the novel.
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Custer Space Sector Commander
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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That "sequel" is perhaps better known as Edison's Conquest of Mars, and is available at Project Gutenberg
And let us not forget The Second War of the Worlds by George H. Smith... and if you want to know what Britain's greatest detective was up to when the Martians came visiting, Wikipedia has the answer... |
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